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BJ the First to Hold 4 Titles at Once

The upcoming fight between BJ Penn and GSP at UFC 94 will go a long way towards answering the question of pound for pound supremacy.

The debate is fierce and strong points lie on both sides for either fighter in a P4P discussion. In the end though, it’s hard to argue BJ has anything less than a very good chance of winning. He lost a split decision in the first fight and surprisingly got the better of many exchanges. Past criticisms of BJ have been his conditioning. Since his loss to Matt Hughes and his new found commitment to training, it’s hard to argue this is a factor in BJ’s fights any further. BJ is also the most mentally prepared fighter in the game. He’s simply unfazed by the pressure and many feel the mental game is an advantage to BJ in this fight.

Putting the BJ/GSP debate aside, there is a larger debate looming should BJ win at UFC 94. A win raises the intriguing idea of BJ taking his legacy much further in an attempt to win titles in both the WECs 145 pound division and the UFCs 185 pound division. Success in either, or both, of these attempts would cement BJ as the undisputed P4P fighter of all time.

Image of BJ Penn from For those who say BJ would have no shot at Anderson Silva… a dream fight between GSP and Silva has also been rumored. I ask then, if BJ can beat GSP, it’s only logical to believe he would have a decent chance of beating Silva. In addition, BJ has fought and beaten opponents as large as Silva in the past.

While I’m sure it would be no easy task, the drop to 145 pounds for BJ is only another 10 pounds. BJ looks leaner at 155, but still carries some excess weight. If pushed and dieting enough in advance, making 145 is doable. The spread of 145 – 185 is only 40 pounds and provides BJ a solid shot against anyone there. Most other fighters would need to fill a gap of 55 pounds in order to make weight in 4 weight classes.

Could anyone else accomplish this task? Let’s consider Anderson Silva for starters. The drop from 185 to 170 is 15 pounds and Silva has too large a frame to make this possible. Silva moving to heavy weight would cast him against Fedor or others that walk around well above 265 pounds. If Lesnar can throw guys like Frank Mir around like a rag doll, imagine how he would manhandle Silva.

Next, let’s consider GSP – a HUGE 170 pound fighter. Looking at how shredded his hamstrings are in the cage, I’d be surprised if he could make a fight at 169 pounds without losing a limb. A drop of 15 pounds to 155 seems out of the question. Fighting at heavyweight would put him at even a larger disadvantage than Silva.

This is not to suggest any of this would be easy, simply put however, there is no other fighter who we could even debate as having a chance at 4 weight classes. This makes BJ a great choice for best P4P fighter in the world.

  • RiccoisGay says:

    Anderson has fought at 167 lbs before.
    Writers fail to do their research again,……

  • Shaun says:

    OMG!!!I’m so tired hearing about GSP vs Silva or Penn vs Silva…I wanna See Silva vs Rampage Jackson at 205 Silva needs a test and that needs to happen in 2009!!

  • mymothersjoggingpants says:

    You’re right. Now seriously, on to another question… who else here likes to do the pecker tuck? Tuck your pecker between your legs and dance around – “Silence of the Lambs” style.

  • Bruno says:

    Stating facts isn’t nut hugging.

  • mymothersjoggingpants says:

    Please get your mouth off of Silva’s nuts. Pillow Head Ted.

  • Bruno says:

    He beat Sakurai for the 167 belt in 2001. Get your head out of your ass.

  • mymothersjoggingpants says:

    Silva likely competed at 167 when he was 12 years old. I honestly can’t figure out all you Silva nuthuggers.

  • Bob Loblaw says:

    What a waste of time. Maybe the best P4P fighter in MMA is the lightest fighter in MMA. The lightest fighter has the potential to compete in the most weight classes making them the OBVIOUS P4P #1. When will you people see that this is all a waste of time. It is pure speculation how a 265lb fighter would do at 185lb and thus cannot EVER be truly decided. Making a case based on the fact that someone “could” span 4 weight classes just proves my point, the lighter fighter could span the entire range of weight classes.

  • Bruno says:

    For the record, Anderson Silva was the Shooto 167 lb champion, so he can cut weight past 185.

  • Aaron says:

    With the current divisions, I’d say he can’t do it. I think GSP with beat him again and Silva at the top of 185 spells trouble for Penn. I think he can hold the 145-155 belts till he retires but he’s struggled at 170, forget 185. Not to mention, that many belts means a lot weight loss and gain, if he managed it, he couldn’t maintain that routine for long, it would take its toll on his body.

  • daleo says:

    it will be definitely interesting to see how penn performs, considering his layoff, and his love for food…..interesting article, would love to see him fight at all classes indicated, but i’m not sure he will beat gsp…..nice to see you have lots of time for analysis on this, saves me time doing it.

  • Adam says:

    I’d also like to add, being able to move to different weight classes does not mean anything. The ability to fight at 145, 155, 170 and 185 doesn’t mean he’s a better or more technically sound fighter than someone like Silva. It just means he’s able to lose and gain weight. congratulations, that means absolutely nothing at all.

  • Adam says:

    Just because he CAN fight at 4 different weight classes doesn’t mean he’s the best pound for pound fighter in them. He’d have to beat the top contenders in each division, which I don’t think he could do. This article is full of speculation, and changing weight classes so dramatically has a toll on your body. I highly doubt he’d be able to be a top contender in 4 different weight classes, especially moving up to 185.

  • James says:

    Remove your mouth from BJ’s nuts.

  • Ricco says:

    GSP will run through BJ so fast, so we will never have to worry about this arguement.


    BJ is so overated it’s ridiculous.

  • Flip Sanders says:

    Great article.

    I’ve never looked at BJ like this.

    But it’s true. No one could be a champ in 4 weight classes other than BJ.

  • mymothersjoggingpants says:

    I agree with your point – it would have to be someone in a lighter weight class with a shot at doing this. An argument could be made for Urijah Faber or Miguel Torres, both of whom could get down to even lower weight classes than BJ.

    Dunseith is still alergic to the sun.


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